Smells Like Humans
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Smells Like Humans
THE SECRET TO AGING GRACEFULLY
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Jaimee joins Ross to discuss aging and how it should be done. Tangents include: Diaper Butt; Old People nicknames; AED's; Public Dancing Etiquette; Convex mirror selfies; THE BEAST.
Notes:
- https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/19/well/live/aging-tips-margareta-magnusson.html?action=click&algo=bandit-all-surfaces-shadow-lda-unique-diversify-time-cutoff-30&alpha=0.05&block=trending_recirc&fellback=false&imp_id=263148872&impression_id=8c84a979-9db1-11ed-990b-136c12c4e02e&index=1&pgtype=Article&pool=pool%2F91fcf81c-4fb0-49ff-bd57-a24647c85ea1®ion=footer&req_id=381123594&shadow_vec_sim=0.25823581351803393&surface=eos-most-popular-story&variant=0_bandit-eng30s-diversify-shadow-lda-unique
- https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/12/style/ann-arbor-geezer-happy-hour.html
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You can do it any way you want. You've lived the life. You've walked the path. You've earned the right. If you want to wear diaper butt pants, you go ahead and rock those out.
SPEAKER_05That's right. You want crusty lips? As good as that sounds. You want to crust out those lips? You do that. You do you. You put a damn chicken pot pie all over your face.
SPEAKER_04Welcome to another episode of Smells Like Humans. This is the podcast where we explore the curious things that people do, the very human things that grab our attention and cause us to wonder, what? And why? I'm Ross, your host, and my guest today is a delightful human whose voice is so dulcet, if she were a musical instrument, she would be a 47-string concert grand pedal harp. It's Jamie. Hi Ross. Have you ever been compared to a pedal harp? Oh, constantly. And welcome everyone, friends. Help us grow our community by sharing our show. It's so important. We are nobodies.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04We're not famous.
SPEAKER_00Less than dirt.
SPEAKER_04We're we're we're not even a micro influencer. No. We have no influence, but we love the people that listens to the show. And we have this belief. We have this hard and fast belief that there are people in the world that want to hear this show. And how are they going to find out about us? They're going to find out about us because people like you will take a moment and share one of your favorite shows with people you think might like it. We appreciate that. And we appreciate you listening every week. Now, Jamie, we know one thing about humans. They get older.
SPEAKER_00That's true.
SPEAKER_04And what starts out as a fun little journey turns into a grim death march toward old age, infirmity, and disgrace. Or does it have to?
SPEAKER_00Oh.
SPEAKER_04How's your aging going, Jamie?
SPEAKER_00Uh, like a fine wine.
SPEAKER_04Nice.
SPEAKER_00That's great.
SPEAKER_04I think that the only way for me to know how I'm looking is to take pictures. Yeah. Because the mirror lies. Definitely. The mirror doesn't lie, but I have a way of looking at myself in the mirror and not seeing the truth. Right. I really do not see the truth, but where I see the truth is in the pictures that I'm in, or in um, because I'm always doing self-taped auditions. So then you see yourself all the time. That boy is craigalicious. Uh did you hear the latest uh selfie fad is using convex mirrors?
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_04Do you know those parking garage mirrors so you can see if you're about to run somebody over? Uh-huh. You still run them over, but you at least see them coming. So then you can like, oh, I want to get that person. Uh-huh. Anyway, people are buying those and putting them in their like apartments and then taking selfies reflected through and the convex mirror.
SPEAKER_00Uh-huh. Why? Okay.
SPEAKER_04It's just the latest thing. It's the latest, coolest thing. It's like, I'm taking a picture of myself, but it's distorted through this cool mirror. So it's not exactly veridical. It's not exactly the exact representation. It's a little distorted, but it's me. Right. Because there was a phase where people are doing no filter selfies. Yeah. So there was a no-filter craze. I don't know when it started, but that's over.
SPEAKER_00So I think this is filters only now.
SPEAKER_04Well, the next thing is now get a get a fun house mirror and do that for a while. So my philosophy now is I'm uh past the point where if I did a chemical peel, it wouldn't matter. You could peel all this off, and you would still it would still be a requiem for the crib keeper. Like, you know, when I was younger, I'd wake up with like a crick in my neck, and I'd be like, What's going on? This is weird. I need to go to somebody. And now it's like I wake up and it's like, at least I have a neck.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. This is just how I am now.
SPEAKER_04And this is what happens with older people. You hear them saying stuff like this.
SPEAKER_02Like it gets to the point where you see them say things like, I'm just glad I opened my eyes this morning.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. I think there should be more to life than opening your eyes and calling that a win. I noticed an article recently on advice for aging exuberantly.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_04We're all on the same path, and we all hope that we're gonna be able to do a full journey on the path. We all are hoping that. We're all walking the same journey, just some of us are farther along.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_04The thing that life does, which I think is very interesting, is that when we're younger, we're on this path, but we don't think we are on the same path. When we see old people, we're like, they're on some other path.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04They're cranky, they're weird, they smell funny, they got stories that nobody wants to hear. But we're all on the same path. And the path, where does it lead?
SPEAKER_03It leads to a cave. And what's in the cave? A beast. And we all are headed to the cave to see the beast. And the beast always win. Is that so great?
SPEAKER_00I don't know what that means, but I'm we're all gonna die.
SPEAKER_04Okay, and the lucky ones of us get to do a full journey. But this whole concept of aging gracefully or exuberantly, I want to know. I'm just wondering, is that really necessary? Is it necessary to age and also do it in a way that people say, well, that's graceful? No. Or they're doing a great job of getting old. So I read this article and they had three three things that they think you should do as you get older.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_04I want to read them to you. The first one I don't know how it's pronounced.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_04And sometimes I I when I read certain articles and they put in foreign words, I think they're just trying to dress up something that's not that interesting. But anyway, this is called kart bezvar.
SPEAKER_00That sounds right.
SPEAKER_04Kart bezvar. Okay. You're supposed to embrace kart bezvar. What is it? It's a Swedish phrase. The Swedish phrase blends kart, meaning dear or cherished, and besvar or bezvar, which means pain. Cherished pain.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_04So the example is well, you might be paying your bills, which is annoying, but you're still grateful that you have the money to pay. You're taking care of someone who is sick. And you've been waiting on them hand and foot, and you're kind of like exhausted from it. But at least you're able to do that. Um it's reminding yourself that you're strong enough to do the things that you don't like doing.
SPEAKER_00I don't love this.
SPEAKER_04So it's supposed it's a philosophy that's supposed to help you live with joy. So the nuisances and unpleasantries in life need to be cherished because you get to do them.
SPEAKER_00No, I think I don't like it.
SPEAKER_04And I get the basic idea about it, but I I don't I don't that one doesn't resonate. Here's number two. Okay. As you're old, getting older, this is something for you to keep in mind. Surround yourself with the young.
SPEAKER_00No, I don't like the youths. And anytime I walk past like a bunch of like middle school kids, I'm like, oh god, they're roasting me. I know they're like roasting me behind my back. I don't want them anywhere near me. Those middle school kids will roast your ass. They will.
SPEAKER_05They'll come at you.
SPEAKER_00No, thank you.
SPEAKER_0512-year-old snark masters with the roasting capabilities.
SPEAKER_04It's the idea of being around young people. You get fresh ideas, new perspectives, new lingo. No. Except you wouldn't say lingo. Yeah, probably. So this one researcher says spending time with younger people can also help your brain socializing with younger people who are mentally sharp can provide the type of stimulation that helps boost cognitive functioning. If you're older and you're hanging around with young people, you're creeping them out.
SPEAKER_05It's not a good look. You know that you're creeping them out.
SPEAKER_04And they don't want you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I happen to have a lot of younger friends.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_04But not young young. Right. Like I count you as one of my younger friends.
SPEAKER_00And I'm not young.
SPEAKER_04You're well, you're not in high school.
SPEAKER_00No. Okay. I'm not roasting you behind your back.
SPEAKER_05You could. I could. I don't care.
SPEAKER_04But I have a I'm lucky to have a lot of friends from all different age groups. And it is fun and interesting to be around them. And I'm always learning things. I'm always learning new things. And I feel like it's an exchange. Like I will share things. And so it's hard to suddenly just say, well, I'm just going to make some younger friends because uh you creep them out. Yeah. They recommend that you keep your door and fridge open for grandchildren. I don't know where you're getting grandchildren. I don't know. They're just saying, here's a way to get young people in your life, like get some kids and by feeding them. That sounds I mean, what are you gonna do? Get a white panel van and drive around with candy.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Dress up in a clown suit. No, that's been done, John Wayne Casey. And we haven't forgotten it. No. Make an eight-minute phone call to a younger relative. No.
SPEAKER_00I would rather do anything else than make a phone call.
SPEAKER_04And why eight minutes? And also, younger relatives don't want to hear from you unless it's like time for them to get a birthday check.
SPEAKER_00I'm only good for so much. Yeah, what can you talk to a kid about? I don't know.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Generally, I don't know.
SPEAKER_04And the thing is, you get one minute into an eight-minute phone call and those bitches are roasting you for the next seven.
SPEAKER_00Exactly.
SPEAKER_04Getting your ass roasted, and you can't get out of it.
SPEAKER_00They have you on speakerphone and all of their friends are making fun of you.
SPEAKER_04Volunteer to read. And they have a speakerphone. Volunteer to read to children at your library. How about a big dose of no? No, this isn't they're gonna help you. This I think doing something like that makes you feel older.
SPEAKER_00Definitely.
SPEAKER_04So what'd you do today there?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04What do you call me Maw? What's I think of the names? Pop pop? Also, if you don't want to feel older, get rid of those fucked up nicknames. Yeah. Mee Maw and Pop Pop. Like, get that out of here. Right. Take that shit down the highway and stick it on a trash bar to China because nobody likes that. Mee Maw, pop pop, Grampy.
SPEAKER_05No. Gammy Gam. Gam Gam. Gammy. Gam Gam. Yeah, all that. So uh what'd you do today, Mimaw? And Mimaw's like, well, and I'm gonna do that voice again.
SPEAKER_02Well, I went to the public library. You know, you can check out books there. I got a library card. Well, anyway, I went to the public library and I read the children.
SPEAKER_05That sounds like a super old ass thing to do. Yeah. Now, if you went to the library and kidnap one of those moes, those mofos, feel a surge of adrenaline. Now you're talking, Mima. And why don't you pack some heat, Gammy? Hurricane Mima coming to town. Show them the Rosco.
unknownPop, pop.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I mean, that's all good stuff, volunteering, doing that stuff, but I feel like that's not going to make you feel any younger.
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_04That's what old people do.
SPEAKER_00After you're retired, they got their bus packed.
SPEAKER_04They ride downtown. They read some stories to kids who are roasting the bejesus out of their ass. They're just freaking roast. I mean, if you've never if you've never seen a nine-year-old roasting some old-timer crackmaster, you have not seen a pitiful sight.
SPEAKER_00That's right.
SPEAKER_04Ask questions of children, listen to them, give them food.
SPEAKER_00Lots of stuff with children.
SPEAKER_04And it's all what old people do already.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And then they recommend don't tell them about your bad knee again. No, that's not the problem with older people. It's those stories. They have some good stories. They've had a lifetime of experience. They've been on the path. I was saying this earlier how great this journey is, and we're all on the same journey. But some of these stories suck butt. Okay. And here's the other problem with the stories. Here's the other problem with them is that they keep telling them the same ones.
SPEAKER_05You don't have anybody in your life, but I'm actually the person in your life.
SPEAKER_00Oh my Jesus, can I hear the story one more time?
SPEAKER_04There are actually people who listen to this. There are people who listen to this podcast who's square.
SPEAKER_05They're like, again with the roasting? We talking about.
SPEAKER_04So, you know, they just feel like they've heard me tell these stories. But um, they they tell the same stories too many times.
SPEAKER_05Or the stories are just so boring. Like they haven't workshopped these things. Like you gotta workshop your stories. You know, it's like you remember the time. This whole thing is gonna be a blooper reel.
SPEAKER_04It's gonna be a blooper reel.
SPEAKER_05I haven't even done anything yet.
SPEAKER_04You remember the time I told you the story about when I went into the restroom and all of a sudden a whole lot of poop went flying underneath the stall. Okay, remember. Well, what if I told you that whole thing, I wound that whole thing up, and then all I said was nothing. And then I heard the other I heard the other toilet flush, and then that was it. And you'd be like, why did we go there? There's got to be something that happens.
SPEAKER_00There's gotta be a punchline, yeah.
SPEAKER_04And it's and even you have to make the stuff up, make it up, right? So a lot of people don't, they seem to have lost track of so they want to talk, they want to talk to younger people, but they're telling stories that have no nothing happens. Right. You gotta have something blow up, someone's gotta die. Yeah. What was the other thing you're saying about good stories? Something you said before. It might have been interesting. I don't know what I said. So workshop your damn stories, is all I'm saying. Yeah. Pop pops. So the last, um what's that?
SPEAKER_00Nothing.
SPEAKER_04Did you say Mimaw? Mimaw. Where do they get these names? And why do they like them?
SPEAKER_00Right. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04Why do they they like they like these old person names? Right. This third recommendation on how to age exuberantly. So let's review. Embrace cart bizarre, which you've already forgotten what that means. I don't know.
SPEAKER_05Surround yourself with the young through kidnapping and then chant.
SPEAKER_04Last but not least, say yes whenever possible. Now I like the idea of this. Wait, you're gonna say no?
SPEAKER_00Well, as you recall, my New Year's resolution is to say no more often.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_00You've tried saying yes, I've tried saying yes, I'm over it, I'm tired. I'm very tired.
SPEAKER_04You kept saying yes, and now you have a family of Bolivians living in your house. So that's how that can go. So uh this one researcher says a common misconception about older people is that they're rigid and they'll never change. That's not true, says this person. Older people are not more rigid than younger people. Those are personality traits, not age traits. Yet they say older people have internalized this narrative because they've heard it their whole life, that old people are rigid and they don't change, and you old dog can't learn new tricks and all the other aphorisms. So, what you have to do, they say, is recognize you that you have internalized ageism and fight it. And the way you fight it is you say yes as often as you can, because in effect, you're saying yes to life itself. So be curious, be exploratory, be part of the community. I actually like this, but I don't think I think it applies to everybody.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Saying yes is one of the most empowering things you can do because when you say yes to new things, this in particular, you have no idea what doors that's gonna open for you. The people you're gonna meet, the opportunities that are gonna get presented to you. And that's good for anybody.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Unless you're Jamie when you've said yes too much.
SPEAKER_00I'm over it.
SPEAKER_04You've said yes too much. And there's 13 people from downtown packing up your apartment right now into unmarked boxes and you're moving and you don't know where you're going because you just said yes. Yes, say yes to the van. That's gotta be a show. I think we just made a show. Say yes to the van. I find this where one person has quoted us, I found that having a closed mind ages me more quickly than anything else. So before she refuses something like a dinner or an art show or a sex romp, no, that doesn't say that. An art show or buying a leather jacket, she asks herself, is it that I can't do it or I won't? And she says, give it a try. Maybe you'll go to a party, maybe you'll be the last to leave because you're having a good time. First of all, there's a grain of truth to all of this. You know, there is you get more and more challenges as you get older, and most of them are physical, some of them are economic, and it's important to find a way to appreciate the fact that you're still in the game and you're still kicking, even if it's hard, and you're doing the best you can. I think that's important. I think it's important too, when you can, without creeping people out, hang out with people who are different than you. Whether they're younger is one thing, but just people who are different, different ethnicities, different cultures, different perspectives, all of that. I think that's important. But I think it's important for everybody. I think that this is this idea that this it applies to just older people is uh advice that's kind of straight out of Crab Chester, to tell you the truth. You know, and and and the idea that you somehow who do you, I mean, do you owe somebody the obligation to age gracefully or exuberantly, or can you just go out kicking and screaming in a big humiliating ball of tears?
SPEAKER_00Right. Age however you want. Just don't have dried up, crusty old pieces of food in the corners of your mouth. I don't like that. I feel like that ages you quicker than anything else when you have dried crusty food in the corners of your mouth. I feel like old people always have dried up crusty pieces of food in the corners of your mouth.
SPEAKER_04I'm a I'm really glad that we have discovered this bias that you have against the aged. It's a form of ageism. Yes, very specific.
SPEAKER_00Age how you want, just clean the corners of your mouth.
SPEAKER_04I'm guessing it's because the older you get, the less you can see and or the less you care about stuff. Right. Because I what I do, the way I evaluate someone's how close they are to seeing the beast is by the color of their slacks. You see these old guys with the bright, bright yellow or red pants. Yes. And I'm like, that guy's just about to see the beast. That's too much red. Yes. That should that's a color that should not exist in nature.
SPEAKER_00Right. When the slack fit has like a diaper butt to it, that's the closer you are.
SPEAKER_04When you're what? Oh, the slacks have diaper butt.
SPEAKER_00When you look like you've got diaper butt.
SPEAKER_04I I think I had diaper butt in high school.
SPEAKER_00Did you? I feel like I did because Which was the style at the time. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04It wasn't the style. I just didn't realize it. And then one uh girl told me, gave me some useful feedback, and she said, You don't have a butt. And she also said, You have a really low crotch. No. And I was like, I have not been thinking about this, but thank you. It's always glad, you know, I'm always glad to hear the feedback.
SPEAKER_00Right. You know, you wait You don't want a diaper butt. Well, you want to know.
SPEAKER_04You want to know. You always are always, I'm sure you're happy every time someone makes a comment on your appearance. I was no different than you. I mean, I welcome those comments. Right. So then uh then um a year or two passed and the styles changed, and then it was all like wear tight jeans, like it was the Jordanashed years, and people are wearing tight jeans, and that was all the thing. Yeah, and all of a sudden I had a butt and I was getting compliments.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, great butt.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so but it was just a matter of wearing the right clothes. I didn't change, right? I was just featuring my um assets differently. I was putting them on the shelf, so to speak. I was putting my tchotchkis on the shelf. My wares were on display. That's right. Um, but I didn't actually change, and now, but I now I think, yes, I think there's I'm at risk. For D B diaper butt. And apparently that's not a good thing.
SPEAKER_00I will let you know if you have a diaper butt.
SPEAKER_04That's very nice. Because I don't want those middle schoolers roasting out my diaper buttons. They will go right for the diaper butt. That's where they like to go. That's where they like to go. You try to get them in your white panel van and they're like, hey, diaper butt. You're going to have to.
SPEAKER_00We're not going anywhere near that diaper butt.
SPEAKER_05You need to go to the cave and see the beast first. Mix some squats. Mix in some squats, diaper butt. That's what you want to hear from the young people.
SPEAKER_04Surround yourself with young people because they'll tell you to go out and do some squats. And by the way, I don't want to see older people doing squats. No. Can I just put that out there? Okay, so this is where I was going. Okay. I don't think if you're getting older, if you're listening to this podcast and you're like me and you're over the hill and everybody hates you, you don't owe anybody anything. No. You can do it any way you want. You've lived the life, you've walked the path, you've earned the right. If you want to wear diaper butt pants, you go ahead and rock those out.
SPEAKER_05That's right. You want crusty lips? As good as that sounds. You want to crust out those lips? You do you put a damn chicken pot pie all over your face?
SPEAKER_04Tell a story. Well, Danny, you want to do that.
SPEAKER_05Do it.
SPEAKER_04And and mainly, um what were we talking about? I don't know. So I'm all for people doing what they need to do to live their life and to feel good about the position they're in. If you're older, you should be saying yes, you should be having fun. However, the however you want to define that. And for some old people, they just want to be left alone.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Like they don't want to say yes, they don't want to hang out with anybody, they just want to do what they do. And that's okay too. You don't have to be, you're not doing here here's my point. If you are doing it your own way and you're satisfied, it doesn't matter if you're following somebody else's recipe, you know? Right. As long as you feel satisfied. Now I've mentioned this before. I have this thing about the uh dancing in public after 30 or 35.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_04Depending on the person. 35 is a hard cutoff.
SPEAKER_00Oh man, so I just hit it. Okay.
SPEAKER_04But 30 might be the real cutoff for most people.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Now, when I was younger, I would be at a dance and you know, like somewhere, like a New Year's Eve party at a hotel somewhere, or wherever these places I would end up, and there'd be a mix of people. But if there were older, older people out there dancing, I would notice what they were doing, and I would think that's not good. Yeah. I don't want to see that. And it wasn't about them. It was, I was thinking for myself, like, I'm not gonna be that person.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So I at that time I created a rule. This is no public dancing after 30 or hard cut off at 35. Okay. If you, you know, if you're one of these people that looks younger, like you, you look younger than whatever your age is, you look much younger, and you look like the Catwoman, the Julie Newmar version. I, you know, there's that old saying about dance like no one's watching. Okay, well, we are watching.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So if you dance like that, everyone has cell phones now that can record your dancing and shits on tape on the internet.
SPEAKER_04It's great that you're inspired to dance, so I'm not against that. I'm not against dancing. And but this idea that you should dance like no one's watching, no, people are watching and they're gonna throw up.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Okay. So keep that in mind.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_04Now, I am all for people of older age groups dancing publicly as long as you stay in your own herd. So if you're with a bunch of other old people, you can do whatever you want. Do the jitterbug, do anything. There's an article I read called They're Not Too Old to Boogie. And I'm gonna show you a picture which is exactly what I'm talking about. So I'm showing you this picture, and I'll post the article on in the notes, in the show notes. But here's a lady that looks like she has just had a stroke.
SPEAKER_00Frankensteining.
SPEAKER_04She's Frankensteining, but it also looks like uh stroke part one. This guy is doing a move that I can only describe as exactly what pop pops is doing.
SPEAKER_00He's with the one finger in the air, the hand on the hip, and the one hand in the air pointing.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, really bad. And then there's a person over here that's got her head crooked, and it's looks scary. Yeah. Like um, bad day at the chiropractor. So now there was always the exception. Like one time I was in Paris on a party boat on the Seine. Sounds fun, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04There was an old character, only one old man, and he was partying, and there's always one person who gets a pass.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Because people decide that they're cute or quirky. Quirky, and there's only one.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Because there it can only be one. You can't have two.
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_04Because in that party boat, if there'd been two, one of them would have been tossed over. Right. Like, no.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You're you're a floater. You're floating your way home. And if you can't swim, say hi to the beast. And this guy was allowing himself to be spun on the floor. So people were spinning him around. Okay. And he was enjoying that. And so people were excited about having him. But like that's you can be if you're the only old party guy and people think you're cute because a lot of times they don't. Right. So that's a real tough one. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Very specific.
SPEAKER_04It's a very specific set of variables over which many of which you do not have any control over. Right. Now you can be at a function where there's dancing. Like a wedding. Just sit and have your drink.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Eat your turkey leg. Do they serve turkey at a they wouldn't serve turkey at a wedding?
SPEAKER_00They just like a leg? You know those big legs. Probably not a leg at a wedding.
SPEAKER_04Those big giant legs they have at Disney. What's the deal with those things? They're not from a real bird. I've never had one.
SPEAKER_00How do they make those?
SPEAKER_04I don't know. They're so large.
SPEAKER_00They're very large. They seem remarkably difficult to get.
SPEAKER_04I've seen turkeys in the wild. They don't have legs like that.
SPEAKER_00These are huge gargantuan turkeys. Dinosaur legs.
SPEAKER_04It's like flintstone stuff. And then they're all greasy and people are like dripping grease, talking about the crust on their mouth. This is like burger grease. Goose juice. They have goose juice all over them. And that's not just old people. No. I've seen a nice looking young toddler with goose juice is a disgusting sight.
SPEAKER_00I don't want that. Nah, nobody wants that.
SPEAKER_04No, that's worse. I'd rather listen to another old story. I'd rather listen to Mee Mall. I still go dancing today, but I only I make sure that the crowd is my age range, you know. Right. Now I will go to things like this, but then I just stay out of it. I'm there as an observer, a participant. Sure. Vicariously. I could dance, but I choose not to because I don't want to, I don't want to ruin the spirit of the moment. It would just ruin it. Yeah. And I can't say why it is. But so I want to get your reaction. So you're at a hip happening, cool thing. You're catwoman out. Uh-huh. You're you're doing your peels good. You're feeling good about everything. And this is happening around you. What's your vibe? What's the vibe?
SPEAKER_00I'm boogieing out of there. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04It's like this is not a cool place to be. It's just kind of ruining it. And a lot, I know a lot of people are angry listeners going, no, old people should get to do whatever they want. So yeah, they should get to. No one's saying they can't do it. I'm saying you shouldn't do it. Like, you know, read the room. Right. Go to a place. So this not too old the boogie article is all about this nightclub, wherever it is. It's gotta be Florida, right? Florida for sure. No, I don't think it is. Let's see. Oh, it's in Michigan.
SPEAKER_00Oh.
SPEAKER_04Go figure.
SPEAKER_00Interesting.
SPEAKER_04So it's in Michigan and it's all old people.
SPEAKER_00Well, like in their 70s. Okay. That's acceptable, right? That's fine. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04That's perfect. And there I think there should be more places like this. So everybody can stay with their own herd. Age group. Yeah, and I know again, I know people that are close to me who would be saying, no, no, this is you're totally wrong. And what really we need to integrate these different age groups. Yes, but not on the dance floor. Because when you see Frank and Frankenberry coming at you, you're you just can't feel cool anymore. You just want to get out the uh the AED.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Is that what it's called? The defibrillator. Oh. Is it defibrill is defib or defrib? I think it's defib. It's defib, that's what we're doing. Yeah. Those things are good to know how to work, by the way.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Because anybody, anybody, their heart can stop at any minute.
SPEAKER_00Any minute.
SPEAKER_04Any age.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. And we'd have to see if there's an AED in here. And I g bet you Derek probably knows the donuts, there is a one.
SPEAKER_00Derek probably knows how to work one.
SPEAKER_04But does he have one? Does he have one? Is he nodding his head? No. He says he has one?
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_04He doesn't have one. He doesn't have one. So one of us have a heart attack. Because you probably don't know CPR, or do you?
SPEAKER_00Uh oh man, it's been so I used to work at Gold's Gym. I worked at Gold's Gym for like a really long time. And we had to do CPR training yearly, but it's been a really long time.
SPEAKER_04Well, if you're gonna hang with me some more, you've got to learn because sometime Mee Maw is gonna challenge you.
SPEAKER_00Is it defib or defrib? Defibrillator?
SPEAKER_04Is it defibrillator?
SPEAKER_00It's back, baby.
SPEAKER_04The micribulator.
SPEAKER_00Have you ever had a mic rib stuff? I have never had a mic rib sat.
SPEAKER_04It looks like it would be bad.
SPEAKER_00It does. It doesn't look good. I think that's why I've never had it. But I did eat chocolate.
SPEAKER_04Maybe that would help you age gracefully. So here's here's my humble advice to anyone out there who's still listening to this. And there's about two fractured episode. I think the important thing about getting older is not worry about whether you were being graceful or exuberant or whatever, but give yourself some grace. Yes. Give yourself permission to rest when you need to rest, to say no to stuff that you don't want to do. I think that's the most powerful thing you can do as you get older, is just learn, hey, I don't have to do everything, I don't have to be everything to everybody, I don't have to make everybody like me. What a burden that is when we're younger and we think we have to please people and get curry their favor. So what? We'll have higher social status, or we'll get the job we want, or all this bullshit. And it's like, man, that's so much work. Right. And who wants to do nothing? It's fun to not do some of that. Just like, yeah, okay, and not everyone's gonna like me, and I'm okay with it because I don't like everybody. Yeah, I don't like anybody. No. Um, so give your health permission to be yourself, to rest, to say no, to give yourself credit for stuff you are doing, like it's good. Whatever you're doing that brings you joy and some satisfaction, that's good.
SPEAKER_00I do feel like it's really, really easy to beat yourself up, like to think about all the things that you're doing wrong, bad things, and like be like, oh God, I'm do I'm failing miserably at this thing. But it is nice to give yourself some credit for the good things that you do.
SPEAKER_04Right. And to recognize a lot of the things you are doing are good for you and for other people. And if you can help some other people along the way, that's great. Yeah. But don't feel bad if you're not like traveling the world or learning languages or um picking up the latest technology. I just think that's all a fantasy that's been created mainly by people selling us stuff, selling social media, and social media and all the stuff about here's how you do it, and if you're not doing this somehow, if you're just hanging out, reading a book, watching trash television, that somehow you're not living your life, you might be doing the best thing for yourself. Yeah, here is my specific recommendation. That's my philosophical bent. Yeah, you've just seen my philosophical bent. Okay, I've revealed my bent. First of all, eat some good food.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04No matter what budget you're on, find a way to get a McRib sandwich or whatever it is. Get yourself something that makes you happy that you eat pork rind, sure, pig knuckles.
SPEAKER_00I don't know what I've never seen that. I tried one.
SPEAKER_04I've never heard of a pickled pig tongue, and I'm thinking somebody uh pulled up, pulled a scale. Pull the fats one on me. It was something else. So eat something good. Also have a drink once in a while. And if you don't drink alcohol, you know, drink something fun.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And a Dr. Pepper.
SPEAKER_04Have a Dr. Pepper and treat yourself with full calories. The other thing is I just discovered mocha.
SPEAKER_00Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_04I've been drinking coffee for like 15 years. I never had any coca.
SPEAKER_00You never had a mocha?
SPEAKER_04Never.
SPEAKER_00Oh man.
SPEAKER_04And now I can't get enough mocha.
SPEAKER_00Oh, you're mocha crazy.
SPEAKER_04About two o'clock in the afternoon, I gotta get me a little mocha. It's like now my reward for making it another day.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, you gotta get to the channel. Come on, pop those. That's right. Get your mocha on. Put that in your diaper butt.
SPEAKER_04Also, another thing I think it really helps is finding a way to play a little bit. Even if it's if it's with other people, that's great. But being a little goofy with other people. Something silly. So if you can find a group of people of any age that will play that just like to be silly, I think that is such good medicine. It really releases all these positive chemicals. Totally. Play is great. And if it's a sport, play a sport. But if it's just playing a game or just playing charades or just whatever your game is, you know, taboo any of these games that you can play, or just sit around and tell goofy stories with people, that really helps. And here's the number one thing, according to Ross, that you can do that will enhance your life no matter what age you are, is have real conversations with people who are different from you. So just don't hang around the same people. Just don't so you don't want to freak out the young.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You don't want to be roasted. You don't want to dance where you're not wanted. So I've made all those limitations. But conversation, I'm very democratic about.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And if you can have a real conversation, so not telling someone a story. Let me tell you about a time when we discovered dirt. Like nobody wants to hear that bullshit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But if you want to actually talk to somebody and have a shared experience, a conversation about a topic or about their life, that's great. Yeah. Do that with somebody who's different than you. That's the number one thing because that helps your brain. It helps you learn. It helps you connect with a real person. So not on social media, not on email, not on text, but actually sitting across from somebody with a mocha and having a real conversation.
SPEAKER_00Sometimes I think, oh man, I just don't think I have anything in common with this person. Like, how am I going to have a conversation with them for 45 minutes or whatever? And I always find a way to connect with them and I always end up liking them. Like finding some common ground that something in common that we can talk about every time, and then it it always is like really pleasant and interesting to connect with someone that you don't think that you're going to.
SPEAKER_04You are very socially adept. Thank you. You're really good at that. And I know some people are struggle with being socially proficient. And I know it's and I hear that and I understand it. And so you're going to do the best you can, but you still try. You can still try to. And the best way to do better at that is to really think about your listening skills. Because if you work on your listening skills, it's amazing how much better your interactions will go with other people because we all want to be heard.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04We all want to be valued. If you have trouble, you know, sitting down with people or having conversations with real people or that makes you uncomfortable. If you can get yourself to lectures or presentations or events that are not in your wheelhouse, things you don't normally do. Um, there are things that maybe you have thought in the past are not for you. It's a very specific version of saying yes to new things. It's like saying yes to experiences where you are going to hear from people. They're doing all the work, they're making a presentation, or they're playing music, or they're doing something, going to the theater and seeing uh something that maybe you wouldn't normally choose. It's you love musical theater, but you don't like opera. Well, go to the opera, go somewhere and see something different and see what happens. Because something always happens. Yeah. You always are stimulated in a unique way, and you take something away from the experience. Well, Jamie, I can tell that you are aging gracefully.
SPEAKER_00Oh, thank you. I wouldn't even say that. Even though all my skin's peeling up.
SPEAKER_04It's it's a it's a freak show.
SPEAKER_05And and this is why uh podcasting is good for us.
SPEAKER_04Right. Because one of us is a crag master, and one of us is peeling herself like an orange. But thank you for having this discussion. You're aging beautifully. Thank you. And whatever you're doing is working. Thanks to all of you for listening to us. Share the show, please. Um, we have over 90 episodes now. I don't know exactly how many, but we're getting close to 100 episodes.
SPEAKER_01Wow.
SPEAKER_04And then I think once we reach 100, we get thrown down a well. I don't know what happens. I think that's the most anybody will ever want to hear from us. But we're heading toward 100 episodes. But we have a lot of episodes, and I'm betting there are some that you really like if you listen to the show regularly, or if you're like some of the people who text us or um message us on Instagram and say they've listened to every single episode, which blows my mind. It actually does. It's like, wow, you have found your people if you're liking every episode. But there's probably some ones that are your favorites, and those are the ones to share with people that you know, people that you run across in your life. That really, really helps us. Also, please reach out to us. It really helps to hear your feedback. And if you're enjoying what we're doing, just let us know. Let us know on Instagram. There's also an email address in the show notes. You can send us an email and just tell us if you like it. If you do give us a glowing review on what's it called, Apple Podcasts, we'll read it on the air to make it simple. We just really appreciate you and appreciate that you listen to our show, and we thank you for that. And we hope you will tune in to another episode because whether you are making people very, very uncomfortable with your dancing, or just a middle schooler roasting Mima's diaper butt, it's important to remember that we all smell like humans. Goodbye, everybody.